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  • #47
    Артем, это наши, с Гавьи. Тол они и германики. то ли вульгарисы. все даны, субмаго плюс жирдяй. Класные фотки!
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    Это хорошая идея, повыкладывать свои фотки, только бы еще добавить текста для выхода в практику..

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      • #49
        Тут немного о прикладной энтомологии.

        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/10/gra...ver-early.html
        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/10/gra...ng-period.html
        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/10/die...ter-level.html
        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/11/hig...-4-summer.html
        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/11/die...-can-i-do.html
        http://blog.chavanga.com/2010/11/gra...-you-know.html

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        • #50
          Hi', All. I was going to type up a list of just the more important of the Olives for river fishing; but decided it was quicker to copy a rather more comprehensive list I made out last year for SAB and Adipose Fin.
          I hope it is OK

          Seasonal Appearance of Up-winged Flies -- the Ephemeroptera
          ( The more common species )[B]

          March and April period, first peak flight period for Baetis rhodani, Large Dark Olive ( Medium-large in size, LDO may be seen at any time throughout the season )
          The duns may be copied using:-- Greenwell's Glory, wet and dry, hackled or winged, and Greenwell's Glory nymph. Also copied by Blue Dun, wet and dry: Kite's Imperial, dry; Waterhen Bloa, wet; Olive Nymph; Gold-Ribbed Hare's Ear; Olive Funneldun, dry; Olive Comparadun, dry, and Olive Klinkhamer, dry/emerger; also Olive Quill. dry. The female spinners may be copied using:--Large Red Spinner, which matches the female in name, also, wet and dry, and Pheasant Tail, wet and dry. On the chalk streams in particular, Lunn's Particular. Typically, size 14 hook.

          April, second of the common olive-hued flies, Rhithrogena semicolorata, Olive Upright ( Larger then LDO )
          Duns may be copied using:-- Greenwell's Glory, wet and dry, hackled or winged; also GG nymph; Olive Upright, wet; suitable Olive Funneldun or Comparadun, dry could be tried, or Olive Klinkhamer. Female Spinners may be copied using:-- Yellow Upright, the mature female has the same name, dry, or Olive Upright, wet and Olive Quill, dry. Hook size 12.


          May and June period, !st peak flight period for Baetis vernus, Medium Olive ( Medium size, smaller than LDO, and may be seen for almost all of the trout season. )
          Duns may be copied using:-- Greenwell's Glory, wet and dry, hackled or winged, also GG nymph and Gold- Ribbed Hare's Ear; Rough Olive, wet and dry; Olive Quill, dry, and Olive Upright, wet; also Olive Funneldun or Olive Comparadun, dry. Female spinners may be copied using:-- Red Spinner, the mature female has the same name, wet and dry; Pheasant Tail, wet and dry also Lunn's Particular, again. Hook size smaller than LDO.

          April to October, first of the small yellow duns, Centroptilum luteolum , Small Spurwing ( Small)
          Duns may be copied using:-- Tups Indispensable, wet and dry; but Snipe and Yellow is a good a good wet spider pattern; also small Yellow Comparadun or hackled Badger and Yellow, both dry. Female spinners may be copied using:- Goddard's suggested Lunn's Yellow Boy; but try dry Badger and Yellow or a Yellow Comparadun. Hook size 16 or 18.

          May to October, second of the small yellow duns, Baetis fuscatus, Pale Watery ( Small )
          Copied by virtually the same as Small spurwing in both dun and spinner forms.

          May to July or August, mainly, the first big yellow dun, Heptagenia sulphurea, Yellow May Dun ( Between LDO and Olive Upright in size)
          Not a very popular angler's fly in my area, but I would try a large Tup's Indispensable. Hook size 14 or even 12.

          May to October , the darkest small dun, Alainites muticus, Iron Blue Dun ( Small )
          Duns may be copied using:-- Snipe and Purple, wet or Iron Blue dun, wet or dry; but I have had fish on a small black gnat. Copy spinners using a dry Houghton Ruby, but a little hackled Red Spinner may be tried.
          Hook size 16 or 18.

          May to June, mainly, but later also, Ephemera danica, Mayfly ( Very large )
          The duns are the Green Drakes, use pattern of the same name or any one of many different artificials. As a nymph copy, try Walker's Mayfly Nymph. The spinners are known as Grey Drakes. Again, lots of spinner patterns.
          Hook sizes 8 to 10, long shank.
          Hi', All.
          Here is page 2 of the fly selection 'bumph'. Although I set out to cover the true Olive family, only, There are three upwings in this selection that are not olives. Olive Upright, you have seen, BWO and August Dun are also included. BWO, because it is the most important of the upwinged summer flies on rivers; August Dun, because it is so big, so bonny and pretty common -- more so than its three close relatives, I would think. The big spinner is a favourite of Malcom Greenhalgh, who also ties Caenis and Greenfly copies -- talk about extremes!!

          Seasonal Appearance of Up-winged Flies -- the Ephemeroptera (2)

          May to October, mainly July and August, our smallest dark dun, Baetis scambus, Small Dark Olive, also known as July Dun ( Small )
          Duns may be copied using:-- Snipe and Yellow, wet, surprisingly, perhaps, the Snipe and Purple, also. SandN is a nymph copy, while SandP is more like the dun fly, drowned!! The female spinner is Small Red Spinner, so use a dry or wet Red Spinner. Goddard suggests Lunn' Particular, again, but you will find that Pheasant Tail, wet and dry is OK. Hook sizes 16 or 18

          June onwards, best late afternoon and evening, up until October, Serratella ignita, Blue-Winged Olive ( Medium )
          Duns may be be copied using:-- Greenwell's Glory, wet and dry; Rough Olive, wet and dry; Poult Bloa, and as with most patterns, a number of modern dressings for numphs, emergers and duns. Sherry Spinner is the name of the mature female, and is the best -known dry spinner pattern; Pheasant Tail mat be tried ,wet and dry, or Ginger Quill, dry. Orange Quill is also used, probably more popular further south than in Cumbria. Hook sizes 14

          August and September, fairly common, is Ecdyonuris dispar, the August or Autumn Dun, ( Size between Ol.Upright and Mayfly )
          Duns copied by August Brown ( Goddard suggestion); for nymphs try Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear or a Hare's Ear body with brown partridge tails (short) and brown partridge hackle. The mature female is Great Red Spinner, copy using Red Spinner or Pheasant Tail, both wet and dry. Hook size 12, even size 10

          August and Saptember., second peak emergence of Medium Olive

          September and October, second peak of Large Dark Olive

          There are many more species in the Order, Ephemeroptera ( the Upwinged flies ) but the lists probably cover the more common and widely distributed. In Cumbria we have most of the 51 recorded species. Caenis are not listed because they are so small and more of a speciality, March Brown are well-known but not widely distributed, We have all of the Big Ecdyonurids up here, but they are not copied by many anglers as they are not usually seen in quantity, apart from August Dun and, to a lesser degree, Large Brook.

          For lists of dressings, I often refer to The New Illustrated Dictionary of Trout Flies, by John Roberts, but I am sure that almost any and every fly dressing could be found by asking on the FFF.

          Here are a few of my own tried and trusted patterns that are not hard to tie.

          Dark Eden Olive:--- Tying thread, Olive silk. Body, waxed thread, ribbed fine gold wire. Tails, mixed dark olive and dark blue dun cock hackle barbs ( named fibres by some ) Front shoulder hackle, dark olive, second hackle, dark blue dun, cock hackles, several turns of each. ( Body may be varnished, try it for effect to darken body )

          Medium Eden Olive :--- Tying thread, Primrose silk; body waxed tying thread, ribbed fine gold wire. Tails, mixed medium olive and medium blue dun cock hackle barbs. Front shoulder hackle, medium olive, second hackle, medium blue dun, cock hackles, several turns of each.

          Light Eden Olive :--- Tying thread, palest yellow silk or nylon etc, Body, tying thread, ribbed gold thread or fine gold wire. Tails, mixed golden olive or pale olive cock hackle barbs mixed with lightest blue dun or plae grey. Front shoulder hackle, golden or pale olive cock, second hackle, lightest blue dun or pale grey, cock hackles, several turns of each.

          These dry flies cover the Olives, from Dark Olive through Medium Olive to the Pale Watery group, which includes Small Spurwing and Pale Evening Dun, if it's on your water -- also will do when the larger Spurwing is found or Yellow May, in the right sizes. Tie them up wet, with fewer turns of hackle, to copy the drowned duns.

          The larvae of the upwinged flies, Olives in particular, may be copied quite well using only three patterns, weighted or unweighted. Gold-Ribbed Hare's Ear is good, but better, I think, with short light brown hen or partridge back hackles for legs and tails. Try Pheasant Tail with short legs and tails of brown partridge. Lastly. Olive Nymph -- try Greenwell's body, and make short tails and legs using olive dyed grey partridge, or olive hen hackle tail and legs. On all three, try tying in wing cases for a more imitative appearance. Use wing case to split and separate the leg hackles. For wing-cases, I use darkish primary wing feathers from heron, goose or dark cock pheasant centre tails. There is a very good reason for my recommending these, as with nymphs, as they near maturity, the wing pads become a very noticeable feature, and they can be quite dark. They might just be a trigger point for the fish, so it doesn't hurt to make them look a little more prominent. Also, my reason for favouring partridge hackles is that quite a few species of nymph have speckled legs, both Olives and Stone-clingers --- Baetis and most of the Heptagenidae.
          I haven't checked, but I'm sure you will find a Step By Step tying of such nymphs on the Forum. They are simple, but very effective on their own, fished above a shrimp or under a Klink. Cheers and happy fly watching and fly tying. TerryC

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          • #51
            Вот почему голавлики и ельцы предпочитали ручейника... Вроде ка энтомология :D
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            • #52
              Да и от стрекозки не отказываются :)

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              • #53
                Сегодня на берегу видел шкурку личинки веснянки, впервые их вижу вживую...хотя взрослую видел, желтую.
                Я вообще думал, они только в горных реках обитают... а эта здоровая такая, сантиметра 2, очень похожа на реалистичные нимфы от "J:son"
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                • #54
                  Уважаемые нахлыстовики! Вот, поймал кепкой насекомое. Небольшими групками они роились в низинке около тропки к водоёму.
                  Это подёнка? Она - массовый вид? Или не особо?

                  Ещё вчера вечером ехал с рыбалки. Стою на остановке в деревне. Около остановки черёмуха. И эта черёмуха, похоже, место сбора майских жуков с округи. Гул! Летают. На меня садятся периодически. Некоторые жуки промахиваются, и с лёту к железную стену остановки, выкрашенную светлой краской - бац! Только БАМ, БАМ, БАМ постоянно!

                  Подумалось: " Ага, самая пора голавлю на мелкие фэты ловится! Поеду половлю в ближайшее время!";)
                  рыба - молчаливая хозяйка воды

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                  • #55
                    она самая:) тоже видел много, и среди них изредка были желтые большие :)
                    в закрытый рот, муха не летит:cool:

                    мтс 8(033)-666-26-44 Андрей

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